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Martin van Hees (Canada) vertelde op 28 maart 2011 om 21:54 uur
Is there anyone who has any information about the faily or ancestors of Nicolaas vanHees, born in Heer but lived in Grave. Married in 1767 to Theodora Kuitenbrouwer from Dordrecht.

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Henri van Heesch zei op 28 maart 2011 om 22:35
Toegangnr: 50
Inventarisnr: 4329
Gemeente: Heusden
Soort akte: overlijden
Aktenummer: 9
Overledene: Hendrikus Frederikus van Hees
Overlijdensdatum overledene: 11-04-1815
Vader: Nicolaas van Hees
Moeder: Theodora Kuitenbrouwer

Toegangnr: 50
Inventarisnr: 3217
Gemeente: Grave
Soort akte: overlijden
Aktenummer: 55
Overledene: Hendrikus Frederikus van Hees
Overlijdensdatum overledene: 11-04-1815
Vader: Nicolaas van Hees
Moeder: Theodora Kuitenbrouwer
Partner:
Nadere informatie: Akte bevat meer info
Tim van Hees zei op 28 maart 2011 om 23:06
Bedaankt Henri I have all of the information already, that you sent me. I would like to know where Nicolaas came from. Tim van Hees
Dorethé zei op 29 maart 2011 om 01:04
Martin, you can find the death certificate of Hendrikus Frederikus van Hees on Family Search (https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/show#uri=https%3A//api.familysearch.org/records/pal%3A/MM9.1.i/dgs%3A004555146.004555146_00213). At the time of death, Hendrikus Frederikus was 45 years old, "grensjager", living in Heusden, born in Grave.

Bruidegom Fredrikus van Hees
Geboorteplaats Grave
Geboortedatum 16-03-1777
Vader bruidegom Nicolaas van Hees
Moeder bruidegom Theodora Kuijtenbrouwer
Bruid Elisabeth Cramers
Geboorteplaats Oss
Geboortedatum 30-12-1784
Vader bruid Johannes Dominikus Cramers
Moeder bruid Allegonda van Lier
Soort registratie huwelijksakte
Aktenummer 11a
Plaats Grave
Datum huwelijk 06-12-1814
Periode 1814
Deel Huwelijksregister Grave 1814
Toegangsnr. 50
Inv.nr. 3181

The marriage and the papers that had to be handed over before the marriage ("huwelijkse bijlagen") can be found on FamilySearch too.
The baptism of Fredericus can be found on this site (www.bhic.nl, voorouders -> "Wat zit erin" -> Grave -> Rooms-Katholiek dopen book 3, scan 60.
Grave -> Nederduits Gereformeerd Trouwen book 18, scan 262 : the marriage of Nicolaas en Theodora. Nicolaas was a soldier, bon in Heere close to Maastricht.

I looked at the GenDaLim7 cd-rom and I've found two baptisms; one of them might be the one you're searching for:

Doop Heer 27-12-1734
Dopeling Nicolaus Vanhees
Vader van de dopeling Josephus Vanhees
Moeder van de dopeling Elisabetha Fraets
Doopgetuige Catharina Vanhees
Doopgetuige Henricus Olmans

Doop Heer 22-03-1744
Dopeling Nicolaus Vanhees
Vader van de dopeling Joannes Vanhees
Moeder van de dopeling Elisabeta Reijnarts
Doopgetuige Catharina Somers
Doopgetuige Gertrudis Rameckers
Doopgetuige Nicolaus Vanhees
Helena zei op 29 maart 2011 om 02:24
Martin, -- Perhaps this helps too; or you may know all this already as well?

Nicolaas van Hees died on 17 October 1807 in Grave. In the extract of the death certificate (to be found with the marriage supplements in 1814, when his son Fredrik married) it is noted: Nicolaas van Hees, died 17 October 1807, buried 119th Oct 1807, 64 years old, widower, lived with 3 children in Brakken Wijk B nr. 45.
Theodora Kuijtenbrouwer was buried 4th May 1804 in Grave.

If his age is correctly noted then he was born around 1740-1745 in Heer (near Maastricht as is noted in the DTB books in 1767).

Then I can go with what Dorethé found already in the transcripties [to be found in the GDL cd]: That he was born in 1744?
The other two Nicolaas van Hees, baptized in Heer were in 1734 and in 1683.
Helena zei op 29 maart 2011 om 02:26
Kerkelijk huwelijk Heer 28-04-1743
Bruidegom Joannes Vanhees
Bruid Maria Elisabetha Reijnart
Getuige bij het huwelijk Franciscus Henricus Peusens
Getuige bij het huwelijk Nelissen
Getuige bij het huwelijk Leonardus Claessen
Helena zei op 29 maart 2011 om 02:30
The name Frederik was already known in the family?:

Doop Heer 16-11-1746
Dopeling Fredericus Vanhees
Vader van de dopeling Joannes Vanhees
Moeder van de dopeling Elisabeta Reijnders
Doopgetuige Walterus Reijnders
Doopgetuige Josephus Van Hees
Doopgetuige Walburgis Duckarts
Doopgetuige Maria Berchems
M. van Hees (Canada) zei op 29 maart 2011 om 02:57
Wow!!! I REALLY APPRECIATE the information everyone is giving me. It is 9:00 at night here, so I know it is 3:00 in the morning in Holland. I will go through all of the new facts tomorrow morning. Keep sending any bits of information PLEASE. Thank you VERY, VERY much. M. van Hees
Helena zei op 29 maart 2011 om 02:58
.. and it is even a different time where I live :)

Heer (Limburg): The trnascripties of the DTB books can also be found via Familysearch
Martin van Hees zei op 29 maart 2011 om 04:42
Help again. I've tried to get to the websites you've listed in your e-mails but I cannot seem to get into them. Could you provide the information on how you got this data?
Helena zei op 29 maart 2011 om 05:17
@ Martin, -- Dorethé gave you already
- the link to the death certificate of Hendrikus Frederikus van Hees. Just copy that link [ starting with https:// ] into the url-bar [or perhaps you call it address bar] in your browser and click enter. It will bring you directly to the page.
- also gave you where you can find the scan of the baptism entry of Fredericus here in the BHIC site. Just follow her instructions.
- Also the marriage entry in 1767: Go here in this site [BHIC] to 'Stamboom' -> 'Voorouders binnen Brabant' -> 'Wat zit erin' -> Dopen Trouwen en Begraven -> Grave -> Nederduits Gereformeerd Trouwen book 18, and find then scan 262 [of the 444 scans].

The other links: Just copy those links that start with https://

The marriage supplements - that are part of the marriage papers in 1814- can be found [with some patience] in the FS site too. Once you start searching in these files you soon will find out in which order they are arranged]. Sometimes easy to find, sometimes harder. Be patient.

I made it easy for you now: The supllements belonging to that marriage in 1814 can be found via this long link:
https://www.familysearch.org/s/image/show#uri=http%3A//pilot.familysearch.org/records/pal%3A/MM9.1.i/dgs%3A004555086.004555086_00004&hash=Mrd8SMocDIIen2Q83tu%252B82PRagg%253D

Then go to image 295 of the 461 that are available in this film. The ones applicable for this marriage are image 295-302. Good luck!
Mariët Bruggeman, namens BHIC bhic zei op 29 maart 2011 om 10:34
Dear Martin,
we've also received a reaction on your question from one of our visitors. Perhaps it can help you.

Nicolaas van Hees as a soldier from Heer near Maastricht married in Grave on 8-7-1767 with Theodora Kuitenbrouwer, widow from Theodorus Vermont, from Dordrecht.
They have 3 children (all born in Grave):
13-12-1768 Joannes Fredericus, with withnesses Joannes van Hees en Maria Kruse
1-12-1771 Henricus Frederikus, with witnesses Fredericus van Hees en Henrica van de Mont.
16-3-1777 Fredericus, only Henrica Kuitenbrouwer is mentioned as a witness.
Perhaps it's an idea to ask your question at the <a href="http://www.rhcl.nl/page.asp?id=851" target="_blank">prikbord</a> of the 'Regionaal Historisch Centrum Limburg'.
Good luck and with best regards,
Tim zei op 29 maart 2011 om 20:04
THANK YOU VERY MUCH to everyone who sent information and weblinks to help me research my family. All of the computer links worked today, and I feel so blessed to have had YOUR help. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Sincerely, Martin (Tim) van Hees from London, Ontario, Canada

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